locked up, would it materially reduce the number of serious attacks on women and children? Dr. Gray: No. Such a move would not be realistic.

Dr. Guttmacher: It would do more harm than good. There wouldn't be enough jails to hold them all. Dr. Van Nostrand: It would be wrong. Dr. Brancale: It wouldn't reduce attacks.

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Dr. Fred Van Nostrand

Does the severity of the punshment inhibit a sex deviate from committing an offence?

Dr. Van Nostrand: In the case of rape or attack on a child, it would not be an inhibiting factor. For other offences it might be a deterrent but not a serious one. Dr. Gray: The severity of the punishment makes little differ-

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Do you believe many deviates commit murder to conceal their crimes? Dr. Brancale: No. Very few do.

Can a sex deviate be cured by surgery? Dr. Gray: No. Denmark has tried it. But Canada would not be likely to. Dr. Guttmacher: The idea fills one with horror. Not enough is yet known of the effects of such surgery, of what it does to the patient's personality. Dr. Brancale: Even after an operation, a man may still be capable of rape. Sex deviation is a personality problem, not one of sex organs.

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What is the average age of a sex deviate? Dr. Guttmacher: Sex offenders are usually older than other lawbreakers although it depends on the type of offence. Rapists are usually robust and young, between 16 and 25. Those who molest children are much older men, often 60 or more.

Do known sex deviates reform or lose their uncontrollable impulses with age? Dr. Guttmacher: No. Time does not change their basic personality conflicts, thought it may reduce their energy.

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Are the impulses of sex deviates less controllable at some times than others? Dr. Guttmacher: It depends. Alcohol plays an important part in sex offences. Some men can control strong sex impulses when sober but lose control when they are drunk.

Is it your belief that a certain percentage of the male and female population will always be sex deviates? Dr. Gray: Yes. Dr. Guttmacher: Yes, especially homosexuals, who are usually the result of a bad child-parent relationship. Homosexuality should not be a criminal offence. It is a problem for the Church, not the state. It should be considered a private matter unless it involves force or is an affront to the public. Even the moral welfare council of the Church of England believes it is a religious. not a state, problem.

Dr. Brancale: New York once penalized men 20 years for homosexuality and now treats it only as a misdemeanor.

Are there any social conditions that contribute to sex deviation? Dr. Van Nostrand: Yes. Alcohol contributes to it. So do economic conditions. A large family might be so poor that three or four children might have to sleep in one bed, which could lead to deviation.

Are most men who commit rape or indecent assault sex deviates? Dr. Gray: Yes. Dr. Guttmacher: Anyone who commits rape is basically abnormal. Rape is not the normal expression of the sexual instinct. Men

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